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Posted 08 Sep 2019 at 22:55

8 months - how are things going for you Chris ?

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Posted 09 Sep 2019 at 00:05
I’m doing well, thank you. Six months since I finished RT and no major side-effects.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Posted 09 Sep 2019 at 10:41
Couldn't agree more Gilly - fasting is best when it's a happy time between you, your body and God. Not some legalistic religious duty. With you and your oh in thanksgiving for the 10 years...and believing for the way through for him to be cancer-free - David and Jill
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Posted 11 Mar 2020 at 21:29
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Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 10:37
No I didn't - have you found it beneficial? Looking back on the past 27 months, the diet aspect of facing the diagnosis has been on a downward curve, though it is still significant. My first reaction - 3 day fasting and following the CareAcross diet and fitness programme - was mostly a way of "drawing a line". I'm still following the broad lines of CareAcross, because I want to, and because I feel good on them, but I don't submit my data very often. They were very helpful dealing with the shock in the early days, but I'm much more settled, bodily and spiritually now. I can sense much more "what my body is saying"...and go with that. In fitness, diet and in fasting..

The relation between diet and the spiritual side is so important, I believe. My PSA is steady on 1.8, after coming off Prostap 18 months ago, and part of it staying that way depends on my staying in faith. I don't have faith that (like pre-diagnosis) I can eat or drink whatever I like with no ill effects - so "no red meat, not much dairy and taking turmeric/flaxseed/Vitamin D" - are part of me staying in faith for the moment.

But please, Bembry, if you've had good experiences with keto, I'd be glad to hear of them.

Stay positive - test negative - David

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Posted 17 Dec 2020 at 19:26
Snake oil
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 14 Jan 2021 at 13:18

Unlike fake reviews on the Internet, no doctor can fake a good attitude from patients and colleagues. It is not a fact that you will be able to notice this during the first consultation, but if you have ever witnessed how other patients say “thank you” to your doctor, and other doctors are happy to discuss professional matters with him, you are probably in good hands. 

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Posted 05 Apr 2022 at 17:28

Mediterranean diet

I haven't been on this thread for a while, but CareAcross (who helped me so much in the early post-diagnosis months) put up this post:
"A study published in the “Cancer” Journal of the American Cancer Society focused on the impact of Mediterranean diet on the progression of prostate cancer, in patients with newly diagnosed localised disease and on active surveillance.

More specifically, researchers monitored 410 patients’ Gleason grade group score every two years and compared it with how much they followed a Mediterranean diet. (Gleason grade group is one of the measures of aggressiveness of prostate tumour cells.)

They found that the more closely a man was following the Mediterranean diet, the lower his risk of Gleason grade group progression. This was independent of whether the patient was taking statins, or if they also had diabetes.

This is a positive reminder that patients can do their part to support their overall health and wellbeing, even after a prostate cancer diagnosis. Although there is no evidence that food alone can treat any type of cancer, maintaining a balanced diet is very important – and also helps control some common side-effects"
I'm probably on a 80% Mediterranean diet. For the past 2 yrs my PSA has been steady, at about 2.5 (was 55 at Gleason 7 diagnosis, down to 0 with the 3 Prostap injections, then rose to this level as I came back to "life with testosterone")

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Posted 10 Aug 2022 at 14:47
I’ve come in on the tail end of this conversation and realise David that it’s tailing off now. However I just wanted to say thank you for starting the thread. As a 74 year old ex businessman (who’s far too overweight) this thread has proved both useful and encouraging. I was diagnosed a few weeks ago and am on a steep learning curve. For myself, spirituality is a very positive dimension to my life but diet… a new discipline I find hard to adhere to. Again, thanks for the encouragement.
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Posted 11 Aug 2022 at 19:44
There is no evidence to support the suggestion that diet has any impact on the progression or recurrence of prostate cancer. If you want to diet for other reasons, such as to lose weight, by all means do so, but it's not going to affect your cancer in any way.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Posted 12 Aug 2022 at 01:25

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I’ve come in on the tail end of this conversation and realise David that it’s tailing off now. However I just wanted to say thank you for starting the thread. As a 74 year old ex businessman (who’s far too overweight) this thread has proved both useful and encouraging. I was diagnosed a few weeks ago and am on a steep learning curve. For myself, spirituality is a very positive dimension to my life but diet… a new discipline I find hard to adhere to. Again, thanks for the encouragement.

We changed our diet completely when my husband was diagnosed. It wasn’t easy for him as he always had a lot of dairy (2 pints of milk a day, lots of butter, cheese etc) and a fair amount of red meat. He’s always been a bit fussy with food too. We took all the dairy and red meat away and he just wanted to eat whatever he thought might make a difference. I guess none of us really know whether diet can impact the cancer, but when we get told this week from the consultant that my husband might be an exception to the rule as he was expecting him to have more treatment by now, then I want to believe that it could have made some difference. Who knows what can be achieved when you believe it! I think we’ll always feel we did everything we could aswell. We’re certainly not as strict now as we once were but I try to make sure I only cook healthy (no meat/dairy) meals at home.

Best of luck to you

 

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Posted 14 Aug 2022 at 10:55
Thanks Elaine. I don’t want to take the thread off course because the focus is spirituality and diet but perhaps someone can point me in the right direction.

I notice from your post Elaine and others here that there seems to be frequent reference to what seems like open dialogue between many patients (or whatever we’re called) and their consultants.

My experience last Friday at the NHS seemed to indicate “‘you’ve had your consultation, my team will be in touch”. I realise they’re busy people and can’t be phoning patients all the time for continuing consultations but can anyone point me to where I might find out what a reasonable level of dialogue with a consultant is? I’ll look elsewhere on this forum but any quick pointers would be much appreciated.

Please don’t let this question detract from the main theme of this discussion thread though. Thanks.

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Posted 14 Aug 2022 at 13:06

My experience with the NHS is there is not a constant dialogue with the consultant. The frequency of intervention is dependent upon the stage of your treatment. You have to remember that the timelines of treatment can be long and drawn out, people are simply compressing those timeline down to key points.

Since March I have seen a urologists 3 times and had 1 phone call. But that is because I was going through diagnosis.

I believe everyone should be assigned a uro-oncology nurse. I have 2. One at my initial local hospital and one at my treatment centre. They both are very good at answering questions and providing advice.

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Posted 14 Aug 2022 at 13:31

Hi Romans, You could start a new thread with a different title. I do accept it is a bit awkward starting threads on this site, but it is a good topic and one people may wish to find in future.

Dave

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Posted 14 Aug 2022 at 18:27

Well I've read this whole thread carefully and I'm not convinced that Barcud's posts are a real account of someone dealing with prostate cancer, though I could be wrong of course.

Jules

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Posted 24 Aug 2022 at 15:42

I'm not really into Wim Hof, apart from 365 wild swimming, but this is an encouraging account from a guy who's gone from stage 4 to cancer-free https://youtu.be/rlbIseil1TE OK it wasn't PCa, but liver cancer, from what I've heard, will kill you a whole bunch quicker.

 
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