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Posted 23 Sep 2022 at 21:19

Sound advice by the stalwarts Lyn Barry Chris Dave and others keep us going we all need the great advice to keep us informed and to keep positivity it's a lonely place with this desease keep it up folks we all need the sound advice going forward thanks to you all πŸ‘ gaz

User
Posted 23 Sep 2022 at 22:46

Hi there,

Yes as many others have said, we've all been there ...we mean this as a comfort...you are not alone...you will get thru this. Take heart from what us guys have said...take a look at my blog...week by week account. It's a shock but you'll overcome.

They usually do a bone scan...easy peasey ......this is to rule out spread to bones...then a CT scan... rules out a spread anywhere else and you may get a PSMA pet scan too..this is really good at giving a more definitive negative..i.e.it really hasn't spread! Then and only then do you start treatment...

I took a voice recorder in to all my consultations...your phone would do.

There's many on here who can help advise you but your medical team/CNS will be your best guide!  But do get all the booklets and info packs , toolkit etc from this charity...they're excellent!

Cheers

 

Steve.

prostatecancer.vivatek.co.uk

 

 

 

Steve

Blog: prostatecancer.vivatek.co.uk

User
Posted 23 Sep 2022 at 23:36

Thanks Steve. Blog is a great read and some stuff I can already relate to. I do need to be more positive but it’s the doubting what the original Specialist Nurse said! Even though my wife was there and confirmed! She also said it was curable and treatable but was unsure of which option of treatment until the MDT. Then you think as she got it wrong etc. I am sure will feel somewhat better once I know the treatment plan. Ironically 2 of my friends had/have prostrate cancer. One had removal 12 years ago with identical Gleason, loving life and the other as lived with treatment for the last 10 years because it had escaped the capsule and he continues to love life. Thanks for the continued support. 

Andy

User
Posted 24 Sep 2022 at 16:15

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Another question. Sorry about this. What’s the CT scan for?

MRI scan isn't great for looking at lymph nodes. CT scan shows lymph nodes better.

User
Posted 24 Sep 2022 at 16:26

Yes the MRI CT and bone scans are good at finding stuff but not too good at telling us that there's nothing there...if that makes sense. In fact bone and CT scans are around 60% whereas the PSMA pet scan is up in the 90's for ruling out the spread of cancerous cells to other parts. There is a logic to the order of scans!

You seem to be doing well.

 

Steve

Blog: prostatecancer.vivatek.co.uk

User
Posted 24 Sep 2022 at 16:39

I don’t feel I am πŸ₯² that worried about everything I feel sick and can’t eat then I think is this advanced prostate cancer! I know it’s stupid! I am driving my wife and kids mad! Wife wants us to go out to our club with friends for a beer but feel guilty for that and I know it will take our minds off it for a bit! 

User
Posted 24 Sep 2022 at 16:45

Bloody hell, mate, GO!

You'll soon come to realise that it's no good worrying about things you can't change or do anything about . Learn to compartmentalise ...put off the worry until the next bit.... I call them Golden Zones! I'm in one right now..... I could worry that my cancer hadn't been cured and has come back, unlikely but you do worry or you could .  I won't actually know until my next test in mid November! So, you must "enjoy" this zone and extract lots of pleasure from it. Be kind and good to yourself !

If you get more news...we're here to help. Meanwhile get those beers in. Show your folks that you're in a Golden Zone and plan to make the most of it! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‰

Edited by member 24 Sep 2022 at 16:47  | Reason: Correction

Steve

Blog: prostatecancer.vivatek.co.uk

User
Posted 24 Sep 2022 at 17:40

Thank you. 

User
Posted 24 Sep 2022 at 19:07
It's not stupid at all. Nobody who hasn't gone through this personally can understand what a stressful time it is. It's good to try and take your mind off it, but for goodness sake don't feel guilty about not being able to enjoy yourself at the moment!

You will feel a lot better once all the tests are done and there's a plan of action in place.

I'm three and a half years after the end of my treatment and I still get pretty stressed in the few days between having my 6-monthly PSA test and finding out the result. I don't think that will ever go away. The rest of the time I never think about it, but the tests are always a bit of a worry.

All the best,

Chris

User
Posted 24 Sep 2022 at 21:16

Well said Chris!

Steve

Blog: prostatecancer.vivatek.co.uk

User
Posted 25 Sep 2022 at 05:37

Hi,

I have also been through it. It is a difficult lengthy journey especially with NHS. Lots of tests and anxiously waiting for the results.  Mine got mixed up with couple of other issues. The 1st MRI scan picked up spot in my colon and bone. That made me really worried to the extend I had “panic shock” and had to call for emergency and even ended up staying in hospital for a day to recover a bit. At the end the scans on bone and colon testing to be negative. I also got a better result after surgery; T3a turned to be T2c and with negative margin. You see, even some of the test results are not accurate and could inject unnecessary anxiety. Nothing is for certain until diagnosis. The hardest part is testing period and once the plan of treatment started things get running much smoother.

Rather than just reading many statistics and leaflet, also talk to people especially those who have the experience and gone through it. Amazingly, this ugly illness turns many patients/sufferers even more stronger, helpful, kinder, …. and these people are more helpful than leaflets. I would have a much harder time if i was not in touch with this forum. Thanks to them many times again.

 

User
Posted 11 Nov 2022 at 11:11

Just want to say, so many strong and positive replies on here, and elsewhere. What a great forum this is. Best wishes to topic starter and all on here.

User
Posted 11 Nov 2022 at 11:16

Wanted to change best wishes topic starter to best wishes to SLF, but cant manage it. So put it here instead πŸ˜ƒ

User
Posted 11 Nov 2022 at 15:38

It’s the first time I’ve seen this thread. Really hope things are better for you now SLF and that you have a plan in place.

Best of luck 

User
Posted 11 Nov 2022 at 20:30

Hi Elaine

I now have my treatment plan with a curative intent. I am Gleason 9 - (4+5) PSA 12 - T2c M0 N0. Been told all contained in the capsule. Bone and CT scan clear. Now on HT then 20 sessions of RT at the end of January then HT for 2 years. I could not have RP due to DVT history through a trauma injury. I can’t have brachytherapy due to prostate being small (20cc). No major side effects from the Zoladex as yet but expecting some along the way.  Been pulling some heavy bins and dull ache in buttock now but mind playing tricks it’s the PCa spreading! Every twinge! It’s mad what this disease does to your mind! Thanks for replying Elaine. 

Andy

User
Posted 12 Nov 2022 at 16:19

Great news Andy that it is contained and you have started treatment now. It’s really not easy what all you guys are going through but you’re all pretty amazing in my eyes.

As for the twinges and worry….I’m the worlds worst with my hubby! Every ache, cough etc my tummy does a flip 🀦🏻‍♀️ I think it’s normal to feel like that though and I am improving….a little! I think the HT can cause a few aches and pains too. 

Wishing you all the very best with your treatment going forward.

 

User
Posted 12 Nov 2022 at 22:43

Brilliant update Andy, Your options might have narrowed but your determination to improve the situation clearly hasnt.

Love it.

 

Jamie

User
Posted 13 Nov 2022 at 09:05

Excellent news! I think once they give you a plan, you feel some relief. My prostate size was double yours (I know Size Queen) with T3b but pretty much no symptoms....here I am 9 months on from RT and I finished HT early cos of the side effects...so 7 months on from that and lo, my hormones are back,(speaks in a much lower voice), I be more manly now! Lol . I hope the blog helps - lots of info in there - esp the RT stuff, which you'll find a doddle. I hope the HT side effects are slight - every man is different. I'm guessing your wife has seen the blog and/or is fully genned up on HT? Then she'll be able to support you...biggest thing I did was a diet change.

Do report back on here...we're here to help.

 

Steve

Steve

Blog: prostatecancer.vivatek.co.uk

User
Posted 13 Nov 2022 at 10:37

I was diagnosed T3b n0m0 gleason 9 (4+5) last January. Started HT followed by RT (60 gy in20 fractions)  May / June. First follow up September, psa 0.08, Oncologist stopped zoladex because of side effects. Good! Still feel wrecked with fatigue and aches and pains 4 mo after stopping zolly. Last implant July. How longwill this go on for? Next psa and testosterone test in Jan. It gets a bit depressing. Any good news on duration appreciated!

Peternigel

User
Posted 13 Nov 2022 at 11:09

Tricky as ....."all men are different".

It can take a year or more to regain hormones. I get PSA and testosterone tested.

Testosterone was 0.9 at its lowest...if only they'd measure this before treatment then you'd have some idea of your normal level. Last check 4 months ago was 1.8 so on the up.

I know it's pretty much returned as .  ... nocturnal erections βœ… 

Hair regrowing βœ…

Hot flushes pretty much goneβœ…

Some 😭 and 🀯 but fewer and not so severe so almost a βœ…

Had proper sex and reached orgasm and a small amount of semen...not quite as before but hey a big βœ…!

Tomorrow is blood tests day ..PSA/testosterone/normal bloods....so big anxiety.  If all's well, I'll move on to the 6 monthly one and just PSA.....

BTW taking fenugreek water (look it up), I think it has boosted Testosterone.

 

Cheers 

Steve

Blog: prostatecancer.vivatek.co.uk

 
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