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Just diagnosed - feeling broken

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Posted 09 Oct 2022 at 23:05

Inspiring as ever Irun

User
Posted 10 Oct 2022 at 08:33

Thank you Irun for taking the time to share your journey and for being so positive.  long may it continue.

I am going to pinch this , I love it !

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today

 

Tracey 

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Posted 10 Oct 2022 at 10:22

Hi. Tracey...my husband who is 65years old received a very similar diagnosis to your husband in April this year. He also had a psa of 48, gleason 4+5 and T3N2M1.  Left Supra pubic bone met..  He has has just finished 6 sessions of chemotherapy and awaiting further CT and bone scan this month prior to review by Oncology for radiotherapy. My husband has kept well, is farming every day and had just minor side effects of chemo. Treatment, fatigue, some bone muscle and joint pains but mainly in first 7 days post each chemo. Session. Yes,  it was very upsetting in the beginning to receive this non curative diagnosis but as you travel the path with treatments it will definitely feel better and you will gain control again.  As a wife it was a roller coaster of emotions but take every day as it comes. some are better than others. The members of this forum are fantastic and you will learn much from them, as to  how well other men with same diagnosis are doing so well and getting on with daily  life.  I know I did and it made you feel that it wasn't just happening to your husband. Also the prostate cancer nurses are excellent to speak to regarding advice. Re: treatments/emotional support. Tracey,  I was just wondering how long your husband had his urinary symptoms before he attended his gp as my husband had similar symptoms which prompted him. please take care and wish you both well for the future. will follow your posts. 

Regards

Ann

 

 

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Posted 10 Oct 2022 at 12:22

What beautiful and positive words Irun. I often share the positive feedback and advice from this wonderful forum with my husband. We both benefit such a lot and we remain positive and think how lucky we are to have this support. Maud

User
Posted 10 Oct 2022 at 20:09

Hi Ann

glad to hear that your husband managed the chemo, I am hoping that my hubby will be ok with it.  He had urinary  symptoms on and off for around 3 months - no other symptoms.

We have felt a bit calmer this weekend mostly due to the positivity on here.

sending best wishes to you both Ann xx

Tracey 

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Posted 11 Oct 2022 at 11:22
Hi Tracey, my husband had Gleason 10, with T3BN1M1C so as you can imagine I was also in a state of shock. However, as I said earlier with the chemotherapy treatment his PSA is a stable 0.02 down from 57.2 and he is doing really well. He continues to play tennis three times a week and badminton once a week. Regarding your husband having chemotherapy what really helped was all the advice I got from this forum. It helped as listening and learning from shared experiences at least gave my husband a good start on what to expect from the treatment and how to manage it. Keep positive and send you and your husband lots of positive vibes and warm wishes.

Maud

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Posted 01 Nov 2022 at 23:16

Bit of an update 

Monday 17th oct telephone appt with oncologist  - not great, made us feel like there was no hope  

chemo upfront and monitor PSA, asked questions about RT  told usually only if confined to prostate or in pain ??  And no point doing RT??

face to face appointment today (1/11/22) chemo starts on Thursday 6 sessions 3 weekly basis (docetaxel) & dexamethasone day before chemo, different oncologist was more positive, asked about RT  and told may have this if use now may not be able to use again?

PSA is down to 1.06 - ONCO happy with this & will monitor every 3 weeks through chemo.

feel like I am confused about RT and can’t get to the bottom of when it is used, but relived that PSA has dropped.

Now worrying about impact of chemo, OH is ok only side effect he has had with prostap is small hot flushes. 

tracey 

Tracey 

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Posted 02 Nov 2022 at 18:22

Hi Tracey,

Hopefully someone will come on to help you further as I don’t know too much about chemo and RT.

Have they confirmed how many mets your husband has? When Rob was diagnosed we wanted his prostate out and then deal with the mets later. He just had 2 at the time though, lymph node and pelvic bone. I mentioned before about the Atlanta trial…not sure if this is something you have looked into? I think generally if there are more than 5 areas it wouldn’t be something that couldn’t be done. And I think (non trial) if someone has a recurrence after radical treatment the NHS will treat just 3 areas where cancer has metastasised. Think there is a maximum lifetime dose of RT that you can have and the same area can’t be retreated (although I have seen some things that contradict this).

As for the chemo, many who have had it say it’s less toxic that some of the chemos for other cancers so much more tolerable. Although everyone is different in how they react to different treatments.

Really good news about his PSA, he’s obviously had a good response to the HT and long may that continue.

There are many much more knowledgeable on here who will be able to help, but this should just bump your post up so others will see it.

Wishing you both all the best x

Edited by member 02 Nov 2022 at 21:54  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 02 Nov 2022 at 20:53

You need to ask why RT will not benefit you when it has been proven to improve overall survival. See this link:
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/treatments/radiotherapy-for-advanced-prostate-cancer/#:~:text=It%20won%27t%20cure%20your,in%20your%20pelvis%20or%20spine.

Ask your oncologist why it won't benefit you..

Recent trials have also shown benefit with treating distant bone metastasis too.

Edited by member 02 Nov 2022 at 20:56  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 02 Nov 2022 at 21:50

Thanks Elaine 

he has 5 mets, pubic bone, 2 left ribs, lower back and small thoracic spine, oncologist said it isn’t wide spread and deposits are small.  They seemed reluctant to commit to RT, even though there isn’t more than 5.  I have read recently about RT up front being used with good results.  

I will discuss with onco at next meeting 

Tracey 

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Posted 02 Nov 2022 at 22:09

Just realised I had a typo and said more than 5 could be done instead of couldn’t 🤦🏻‍♀️ sorry! I’ve changed it now.

I know others seem to have only got three mets targeted on the NHS, although if they give RT to the whole prostate area maybe some would be covered there? Not sure what Atlanta offers. It’s difficult to know what is available but it’s got to be worth asking, and I know in the same situation I would still be pushing for the best treatment in hope of cure.

Best of luck with your next appointment x

 

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Posted 02 Nov 2022 at 23:40

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Thanks Elaine 

he has 5 mets, pubic bone, 2 left ribs, lower back and small thoracic spine, oncologist said it isn’t wide spread and deposits are small.  They seemed reluctant to commit to RT, even though there isn’t more than 5.  I have read recently about RT up front being used with good results.  

I will discuss with onco at next meeting 

RT is used in two different ways in advanced cancer.

1. To reduce symptoms - RT can be aimed at individual bone mets to reduce pain or to stabilise a spinal cord compression. It can also be targeted at a lymph node to reduce lymphodema or aimed at a met to stop bleeding, for example. 

2. RT to the prostate can slow down progression - the theory is that the main tumour is like a central heating boiler and knocking out the prostate means there is nothing  to pump the hot water around the house. However, RT to the prostate will only help men who have mets in the lymph nodes, pelvis or lower spine. Because your husband has mets in the ribs and mid- or upper-spine, there is no benefit to outweigh the potential side effects. 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 02 Nov 2022 at 23:51
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Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Just realised I had a typo and said more than 5 could be done instead of couldn’t 🤦🏻‍♀️ sorry! I’ve changed it now.

I know others seem to have only got three mets targeted on the NHS, although if they give RT to the whole prostate area maybe some would be covered there? Not sure what Atlanta offers.

I think you are confusing two different types of RT here

 

It’s difficult to know what is available but it’s got to be worth asking, and I know in the same situation I would still be pushing for the best treatment in hope of cure.

Everyone needs hope but it should be realistic; metastatic cancer can't be cured.  

 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 03 Nov 2022 at 00:38
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Everyone needs hope but it should be realistic; metastatic cancer can't be cured.  

 



I possibly have watched too many American YouTube videos 🤦🏻‍♀️ It’s always stuck with me that he said you should always aim for cure (within reason of course), they were usually working with up to 5 mets including bone….I assume they were meaning remission but it seems they have sometimes seen very lengthy ones. 

 

 
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