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Seeking Advice and Sharing My Journey

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Posted 21 Dec 2023 at 10:50

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

I was initially told I was "a bit young (60)" for radiotherapy and when diagnosed with PiRADS 4 with "suspicious of a minor T3a extension", was told that surgery was the most likely option.
What options do I have with ED? If the nerves were cut, does taking a viagra equivalent help?

Hi Mike.

I had non nerve sparing RARP 10 months ago.

I was also T3a minor EPE. Pirads 4, Gleason 9 (4+5) I'm now fully continent. I was told viagra tablets would have no effect and they didn't, neither did Caverject but Invicorp works for me. It tends to be a bit hit and miss but I think that's down to my injecting ability rather than the efficacy of the drug.

When I jab the right place. Its brilliant and works in less than ten minutes. It's effective for a couple of hours. I was prescribed it through my ED clinic.

PS: Frank. I had my RARP almost five months after being diagnosed. It was cancelled twice, delayed for a month each time. Once for lack of beds and once for anaesthetists concerns.

Edited by member 21 Dec 2023 at 10:57  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 21 Dec 2023 at 13:03

Thanks again Adrian. 

All the best 

Frank

User
Posted 29 Dec 2023 at 20:31

As explained in earlier post I've been feeling pain near my pubic bone, which varies in intensity depending on whether I'm walking, sitting, or lying down. Despite taking antibiotics, my pain continues. At my recent visit to the Urology Outpatient Clinic, I mentioned significant discomfort in my left buttock, but I didn't have any other urinary symptoms.

 

During the clinical examination,15th Dec  which included a digital rectal exam (DRE), a small, extremely tender bump was found near my prostate on the left side, raising suspicions of a possible abscess or infection. As a result, I underwent several blood tests including a full blood count (FBC), urea and electrolytes (U&E), C-reactive protein (CRP), and a CT scan of my pelvis. My test results showed an eGFR of 61, PSA of 4, CRP <4, hemoglobin 130, and white blood cell count of 4.8. I was prescribed Ciprofloxacin 500mg.

 

However, the CT scan didn't reveal a well-formed or periprostatic abscess. It showed partially effused bilateral sacroiliac joints with mildly irregular articular margins, which indicates joint involvement but doesn't confirm a specific diagnosis.

 

I'm currently waiting for the results of my MRI from December 20th, and I'm understandably worried about the possibility of the condition progressing to my bones and causing pain. Given that my CT and Nuclear Scans in mid-November were clear, I'm questioning if it's possible for the condition to have advanced to a T4 stage so quickly.

 

If it's not at T4 stage, the plan might change from a robotic-assisted radical prostatectomy (RARP) to hormone therapy (HT) and radiation therapy (RT). If it has progressed to T4 stage, I need to discuss treatment options that focus on alleviating bone pain and extending my quality of life.

 

For my next consultation beginning of Jan I plan to ask about treatment options specific to T4 stage disease, strategies for managing pain, and any potential side effects or impacts on my daily life. I also want to understand the expected outcomes and prognosis of different treatment approaches.

Any feedback greatly appreciated as I keep reading about hormone resistance for some cancers.

User
Posted 30 Dec 2023 at 11:22

Frank, did you have a PSMA-PET-CT or PSMA-PET-MRI scan in November? If so, - and they were clear,- I would imagine there will have been very little chance of so rapid a PCa spread to your bones within this time frame.

I just got my results from both those same yesterday - which like you were both done on 20th December - and they came back with 'no additional findings' - which came as a certain relief. (By the bye - for my sins - I'm 68, Gleason 7 (4+3), T2a, N0M0).

They say that the PSMA-PET-MRIs alone (and I realise there are only VERY few with that current facility in the UK) can actually see cancer seven years (i.e., HUGELY small tumours) in advance of other scans. If you had one of those I would very much try to rest easy. The only reason I got both is because I was participating in a clinical trial which is comparing the overall value of one against the other.

All best wishes for a most joyous New Year.

Edited by member 30 Dec 2023 at 11:35  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 30 Dec 2023 at 14:39

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I'm questioning if it's possible for the condition to have advanced to a T4 stage so quickly.

 

Hi Frank, I think you may have misunderstood the grading system - mets in the sacroiliac joints wouldn't change your T3 (possible T2c) to a T4 .... it would change the M0 or Mx part of your diagnosis to M1b

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 30 Dec 2023 at 14:53

Hi Robert

thanks for sharing your story. It seems we share our initial prostate results all contained in the same lower left lobe area.

Regarding the “bone scan” as far as I’m aware I had the one with radio tracer where the slots in the mri virtually touch every part of the head and body from head to toe. They told me just to keep my eyes closed throughout.

Then the full body CT followed 5 days later from memory.

Waiting for appointments is dreadful, and this next one for me where I’m meeting oncologist after 3-4 weeks of a new weird pain feels like torture.

Hope everything goes smoothly in your journey from here onwards.

all the best

Frank

User
Posted 30 Dec 2023 at 15:20

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I'm questioning if it's possible for the condition to have advanced to a T4 stage so quickly.

 

Hi Frank, I think you may have misunderstood the grading system - mets in the sacroiliac joints wouldn't change your T3 (possible T2c) to a T4 .... it would change the M0 or Mx part of your diagnosis to M1b

Hi Lyn and thanks for your input. I admit I find it very confusing. If it did become M1 and still T3a would this mean it’s still curable?

User
Posted 29 Jan 2024 at 17:28

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi Mike, thank you so much for the thoughtful reply.

Your pre treatment picture is quite similar to mine and I’m happy to hear you that you are recovering well.

How long did your surgery happen from the T3 reading?

 

Hi Frank, 
My apologies for the delayed response. {I have now turned on notifications on my account, so I should be able to respond quicker}. 

It was 5 months between possible T3a reading and my surgery. 

It's end of January - have you had surgery? How are you doing post op? 

Best wishes, Mike

User
Posted 29 Jan 2024 at 23:27

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Hi Lyn and thanks for your input. I admit I find it very confusing. If it did become M1 and still T3a would this mean it’s still curable?

Sorry, I missed this in December - no, M1 is considered to be advanced prostate cancer and therefore incurable. There are some situations where a man has only one or two visible mets and can have high dose RT to these but it tends to just pop up somewhere else. 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 02 Feb 2024 at 10:17

Hi Mike

Hope you are doing well.

Had surgery almost 3 weeks ago and doing well.

Catheter removed 7 days after surgery which was a great relief after suffering 2 visits to A&E with catheter blockages!

Finding I have fairly good bladder control.

 I suffer from chronic constipation so had to get on top of that with laxatives as there would be no bowel movements otherwise. Was very cautious to not have to push too hard as was told it could affect the new joint in waterworks!

5 weeks to wait for the Pathology/Histology meeting but not sure when first post op PSA reading will take place.

All the best

Frank

User
Posted 02 Feb 2024 at 10:41

Hi Frank

Nice to see you've got decent bladder control.

Constipation was a big problem for me after the op. Despite drinking cup fulls of the syrupy laxative the hospital gave me and handfuls of senna tablets. Like you, I daren't strain too much but sometimes when pushing I'd get a bit of blood coming from my penis

I went 10 days without a poo, and had to ring the doctor for some extra strong laxatives.

 Eventually she blew, and when she blew. she blew! it was like the world had fallen out of my bottom.

I apologise to those having a late breakfast.

Edited by member 02 Feb 2024 at 11:02  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 02 Feb 2024 at 11:37

Good to hear from you Adrian

I know there’s no nice way to describe bowel movement 😀

how long after surgery did they do your PSA test?

User
Posted 02 Feb 2024 at 17:04

Two months, Frank, I was in a hospital ward following a minor heart attack. My wife telephoned saying that my urologist wanted a PSA check. One of the cardilogy nurses did it for me and passed the results to him next day. It was good news <.02 and is still that a year later, touch wood.

User
Posted 02 Feb 2024 at 18:19

Long may that continue Adrian.

best

Frank

User
Posted 04 Mar 2024 at 16:28

Hi Frank, 

Thanks for your message, I appreciate you reaching out. I'm still new here on this forum so cannot reply privately until I make some more posts. 

Re waiting for that first PSA result after the op... 
I got told a variety of timescales: 6-8 weeks or 12 weeks ( I think I was getting fobbed off at one point). Personally it didn't help that my notes and referral got lost between the two different health trusts  (one for prostectomy and another for oncology). 
I had to push and go to patient liaison services and raise a complaint before I got some prompt action. It did my head in having to wait for the first PSA figure. 
The prostectomy trust just gave me a blank blood/PSA form at the 6 week post op consultation and told me to make an appointment "sometime in February" which would have been 13-16 weeks post op. I am sure that was bad advice, but I think they were expecting the oncology trust to see me up by then. Nothing would have happened until I chased it. In the end, my first PSA was just under 12 weeks post op. 
In hindsight I would probably have taken that blank form and booked a blood test at 8 weeks, and then badgered the consultants / nurses until I got the result from them. 
The hospitals in my area have all gone to online blood test booking systems. So you can book a test and then just show up with the form, as the forms I am given aren't dated for a particular time. That may be different where you are? 

I hope that is useful and I hope you are recovering ok from the op. 
{Despite the cancer spreading, I feel the op went well and at 4 months post op, I have virtually full bladder control, almost no dribbles any more and post op recovery feels good. At 12 weeks post op I was walking fast for 2 miles a day every day and back to work fulltime. Between 3 and 4 months post op I have been back dancing. Now however, I do have some issue with the cancer spreading to my back, but I dont think that is operation related}.
Best wishes
Mike

User
Posted 04 Mar 2024 at 17:00

Hi Mike again I’m so sorry to hear the news that it has spread to your back. 

Did you have bone scans before your surgery?

Thanks for asking how I’m finding things 7-weeks post op

I’m  doing ok physically and getting decent walks in for exercise. Mentally I find the waiting very tough. I came off the antidepressants straight after surgery but as the pathology meeting day draws nearer I feel like I may have to restart them.

All the best

Frank

User
Posted 05 Mar 2024 at 11:14

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi Frank

Nice to see you've got decent bladder control.

Constipation was a big problem for me after the op. Despite drinking cup fulls of the syrupy laxative the hospital gave me and handfuls of senna tablets. Like you, I daren't strain too much but sometimes when pushing I'd get a bit of blood coming from my penis

I went 10 days without a poo, and had to ring the doctor for some extra strong laxatives.

 Eventually she blew, and when she blew. she blew! it was like the world had fallen out of my bottom.

I apologise to those having a late breakfast.


Bisacodyl usually do the trick, if you are having problems in that dept!
Stronger than Senna - but don't make them too regular 😅

 

User
Posted 05 Mar 2024 at 17:25

Hi Frank, 

Yes, I had a bone scan immediately after the initial biopsy came back showing cancer present in the prostate. The bone scan was clear for cancer. 

In terms of recovery from the prostectomy: At 7 weeks post op I had my first social outing which left me quite tired. I was back at work part time at 10 weeks and then full time at 12 weeks. 

Hope all goes well at your post op pathology meeting. That wait is very hard, I know. 

Best, 
M

 
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