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User
Posted 11 Nov 2024 at 21:16

Hi Pete.

I wouldn't bog yourself down with too many mathematical problems. PSA is just an indicator, it's not set in stone. There are cases of men with high PSA who've haven't got cancer and others of those with low PSA that have got aggressive cancer. Having said that it's the best we've got. Yor PSA is relatively low, as is your PSA density, which generally bodes well.

Your biopsy will target and take samples from the areas the MRI has found suspicious, it will also take random samples from other areas of the prostate. These samples will be analysed and graded with a Gleason score. It is only then that you'll get an idea of how aggressive any cancer is. However, even biopsies aren't an exact science, they can miss more serious cancer cells and to a degree they are open to interpretation by the person examing the samples.

As I said before, just take one procedure, one result at a time. 

 

User
Posted 11 Nov 2024 at 21:55

Hi Adrian 

Thanks for the information 

I think your right I'll wait for the results of the biopsy on Friday, to much information frazzled my brain 

Thanks again 

Peter

User
Posted 15 Nov 2024 at 10:46

Hi all hope your all doing well,

Had my biopsy results 

Gleeson score of 4+3 psa density 0.15 psa 7. 7

Pet scan next Friday which I'm dreading. 

I'm 56 and and reading up on treatments I'd prefer the Beam radiotherapy and hormone treatment as I have a overactive bladder but is it most likely the urology specialists will recommended surgery as I'm under 60 ?

Peter

 

 

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User
Posted 17 Nov 2024 at 08:28

Hi  me again

Another thing that's worrying me is I sometimes have some pain in my hips mainly the left hip which I put down to wear and tear as my right leg is bend after a accident where I tore my meniscus and my ligaments got stuck so right leg is not straight, nothing showed up on hips on mri scan which was good but I get a pain in my left thigh hopefully connected to hip pain which has been worrying me a dull ache

Mentioned it at the GPs who just said if anything it will show up in pet scan so wasn't concerned as he said highly unlikely cancer has spread has me worried though

Taking antidepressants anxiety tablets and valium to try and sleep but can't remember the last proper sleep I've had since being told I've two leisons on prostate on mri nearly a month ago, not after any sympathy as I know we are all going through it but has anyone got any recommendations for trying to sleep please ? 

 

Thanks again 

 

 Peter

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User
Posted 17 Nov 2024 at 09:57

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Taking antidepressants anxiety tablets and vacuum to try and sleep but can't remember the last proper sleep

Be careful with the vacuum, some blokes have got 'stuck' and ended up in A&E!

Joking apart, I guess most of us, due to anxiety issues, have had difficulty sleeping. It is also common to blame every ache and pain on the cancer. Good luck with your scan on Friday. 👍

 

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User
Posted 17 Nov 2024 at 10:16

Hi Adrian 

Yeah paranoid with every little ache lack of sleep doing my head in ,scan I'm OK with just the results I'm dreading, valium useless for me ,made me giggle 😃 my typo

Thank you 👍

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User
Posted 17 Nov 2024 at 11:18
I had a particularly bad spell of worrying during diagnosis and rang the PCUK nurse. To sum it up she said take each step one at a time or you'll be thinking too much. That seemed good advice for a while, although it might have just been the ability to talk to someone. I had a Macmillan nurse who was very good if I rang although an extra opinion was good. I stopped reading on here until I'd had the op as some cases wound me up. The euphoria of having had the op lasted me through a while afterwards. Unless you've specific worries it's better to try to stop thinking too deeply.

To reinforce what someone else said once I got to see the surgeon it seemed things were really moving. Diagnosis can seem to drag on when you know you've got it and want to get on with it. So when I got the operation date I was like a boy going to a cup final, which I did at the age of 15 although they lost after being in the lead, couldn't wait and looking forward to it. So this might be the worst bit before it moves up.

User
Posted 17 Nov 2024 at 11:34

Hi Peter

Your not wrong at the moment the worrying is through the roof, got PET scan Friday which I'm cool about it's just the results that worry me as I can't get the worst case scenario out my head even though Psa is 7.7 density 0.15 normal lymph nodes normal pelvic area normal bladder and lower colon,GP has said highly unlikely to spread as well as the clinical prostate nurse who gave me my biopsy results she said its to rule out spreading, but obviously like everyone im really worried about the worst case scenario plus not been able to hardly sleep

I've look at treatment options in detail and so far the beam radiotherapy and hormone treatment are my preferred way to go

Thanks for your reply 

Hope your doing well

Peter

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User
Posted 17 Nov 2024 at 11:54

I suspected you'd want RT. The good thing being you can have hormones quickly, if they offer them. I'd want them. You could probably start now even if just to ease your mind and especially if it was to take some time before RT.

User
Posted 17 Nov 2024 at 12:12

Hi Peter 

Yeah I'll definitely ask ,but the urology team want me to meet the surgeons first then the radiotherapy team ,but I'm getting a head of myself as better wait for the results from PET scan which I'm dreading. 

Thanks 

Peter

User
Posted 20 Nov 2024 at 13:16

Hi all

Just found out yesterday from the clinical prostate nurse that 16 of the 30 cells from the biopsy aren't aggressive so hopefully it hasn't spread fingers crossed 🤞

Peter

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User
Posted 20 Nov 2024 at 18:46

Hi all

I ended up in hospital with gallstone pain Monday which was sorted quickly, as chest pain they done a full body blood test a chest x ray and all was normal as the doctor knew I have prostate cancer she offered me a full body bone blood test which I had which came back normal which i don't know how relevant that is, if any one knows I'll be interested to know, probably not that relevant.

Peter

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User
Posted 20 Nov 2024 at 20:25

A clear bone scan is certainly good news in itself since it means that no metastatic spread to the bones was detected. In my own case it was the first bit of good news that I had in this process and it meant that all options were "still on the table", to use the words of the nurse who gave me the results.

I think, however, that bone scans will increasingly be superseded by PSMA PET scans, which do the job more thoroughly. Since you are having a PET scan soon I expect that the results from that will be regarded as more definitive than the ones from the bone scan, so let's hope that it gives you the same "all clear" message.

 

 

User
Posted 20 Nov 2024 at 20:37

Hi
I was given a full bone body blood test in A&E when I was there the results came back normal but probably not relevant to whether it will spread or not ,
Peter

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User
Posted 20 Nov 2024 at 21:01

Hi Peter

I think I am getting confused between a bone scan, which is what I had, and a "full bone body blood test" which sounds like it may be something different. If so I apologise for any confusion - I do not know whether the full bone body blood test is relevant or not. It remains true that your PSMA PET scan will be the best test for spread.

Best wishes

Kevin

User
Posted 20 Nov 2024 at 21:06

Hi 

Yeah not looking forward to results at all for some reason I'm thinking the worst 😕 even though my GP and prostate cancer clinical nurse think it's very unlikely to.

Peter 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2024 at 12:02

Hi all 

Had the PET scan yesterday not as long as I thought half an hour wait before drinking water 10 minutes scan time and 10 minutes wait after so the radiotherapy could look at scan,

Just wondering how most urology departments let you know the results by phone or face to face ? Bloody dreading the results  

Peter

User
Posted 28 Nov 2024 at 12:53

Hi all 

PET scan was a week tomorrow had no contact with the urology team have no idea if the results will be from a phone call or a face to face meeting feel a bit in limbo, would it be worth ringing after a week to see what's happening  ? 

Regards

Peter 

User
Posted 28 Nov 2024 at 23:40

Hi Peter, 

I'm waiting for my biopsy results, I had it on Tuesday the 19th so they're due in any time. 

I know they said they ring me, but like you I didn't know whether they would tell me the results over the phone.

I rang the department that arranged my biopsy appointment to ask how they do the results and she said they'd ring to tell me the result was ready and arrange to have either a face to face or a phone consultation.  Obviously I asked if phone was good news and face to face was bad but she said no, it's not like that, it's whatever they can offer really. 

So they won't ring and tell me I've got cancer while I'm up a ladder clearing out the guttering lol  

I'm not at all concerned about the results, well, I don't feel concerned. Worrying won't change what is happening and won't help my state of mind. I'm sleeping well, eating well and whilst I will be glad to get the result I'm not dreading it.

I think the word cancer just blows your mind, so many horror stories out there.  I read a post the other day in response to someone who had convinced themselves they had cancer on the basis of a slightly raised PSA test.  The guy said when he was diagnosed with prostate cancer he was so happy and relieved! He had lost friends to pancreatic and brain cancer and in his view at least he had something that was curable. 

Try not to worry about the result or the time it takes, if you have PCa it's not raging through your body like a tornado, it's slowly growing and can be treated. 

I think a lady earlier said waiting is the worst bit, once you get an idea what you are dealing with it gets easier. 

Stay strong and be ready for what may or may not come next.

Mick 

User
Posted 29 Nov 2024 at 06:54

Morning mick

I had my mri scan first then the biopsy, I was told the biopsy results by phone two weeks ago today ,had the pet scan a,week ago today, I suffer from anxiety and depression on tablets so not sleeping well waking up in the middle of the night, I'm worried about spreading to bones or somewhere else or what else could of been found with the scan so I'm not dealing with waiting for the results very well at all 

Hope the biopsy is favourable for you mine was put of 32 cells 16 non aggressive the others intermediate so not to bad I suppose 

Best wishes 

Peter 

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